Leave your shit hole of a country. Come live in prosperity, come where social benefits amount to 65884 rubles a month. Send money home whatever. Come and get paid 247068 a month for skilled labor. Also, it's not grey and poor. Bring your sisters though. Love ya'll crazy ruskies
>>215391942>2020>google translator as proof>my facePost "sup /sosach, today is 12.03.2020" and your window view or system screenshot with date+Fin language.
Finlandia, Finlandia,sinne taas matkalla oli Iivana.Kun Molotoffi lupas' juu kaikki harosii,huomenna jo Helsingissä syödään marosii.
Finlandia, Finlandia,Mannerheimin linja oli vastus ankara.Kun Karjalasta alkoi hirmu tulitus,loppui monen Iivanan puhepulistus.
>>215391780 (OP)1 school food. Free ofc школьная еда2 Very common floating sauna плавающая сауна3 Basic streets very clean чистые улицы
>>215392314But English is not everywhere.. Your language is necessary. Your personal documents are written in finnish, aren't they? how tf am i supposed to read mine
>>215391780 (OP)Оставь свое дерьмовое отверстие в стране. Живи в достатке, приезжай туда, где социальные пособия составляют 65884 рубля в месяц. Отправить деньги домой как угодно. Приходите и платите 247068 в месяц за квалифицированный труд. Кроме того, это не серый и не бедный. Приведи своих сестер, хотя. Люблю тебя, сумасшедшие сухариперевод
>>215392167Well, seems legit, now we talkin'.So, why do u want some ugly filthy orks migrants in your country?Whats the point? Fin is actually quite good country, but i don't understand whats the purpose to call ruskis to live there.Anyway, while u still here could you write the most 3 bad things about your country and the most 3 good things in your opinion.
>>215392365English is an offical language. You have your rights as a citizen to no matter where you are get service, papers whatever in english! Hell move to Rovaniemi (Northern Finland) and it's so packed with tourism that it's completely english even from the natives in service.
>>215392425damn really? like.. there is english in every shop, street etc? That means all of you finnish niggas are english natives as well?
>>215392479Yes, kids get taught english at 2nd grade age 8. So every adult speaks well>>215392511Lapland defo!Southern finland is like a scandinavian miami
>>215392389>So, why do u want some ugly filthy orks migrants in your country?Ведь есть потомки древних укров -- хохлы, а он всё про русских!
>>215392671Holy fuck.. I'm so jealous.. I bet you can't even imagine how it feels to see your future as a salary slave for 400 dollars per month lol. Because you probably gonna end like this here. Why the fuck I was born in this shithole?.. I love my country, but I hate our government. It's not democracy, it's fucking pure oligarchy here.Well I'm gonna move to st. petersburg and it's not too far to visit one of your cities. I'll probably do it. Holy fuck I've just googled it and it's only 200kms from petersburg to lappeenranta. Is it a tourist city?
>>215392389Good1. Government pays pretty much everything for the needy moving vans for transport when you road your stuff is even paid for when you move in to a new place if you go to KELA the benefits agency. All healthcare, school, a lot of services are free. Free events. 2. Beautiful nature, well preserved and low pollution. There's a shit ton of activities to enjoy yourselves in for free all year around. Great sports centers which are meant for everyone to be used to keep your health up3. Jobs pay well, you'll own everything very easily. I was born into poverty, broke and all. Took me 15 years to make 33020682 rubels in savings. And believe me I've partied a lot and spent money on branded goods, holidays, festivals, car etcBad (We're similar to you guys in culture but I'd say we're very calm people)1. Older generation is very reserved and don't enjoy small talk. Some 30 year olds can have this depends on the family2. Car Taxes is the only tax which is ass! You'll pay more than in most of the EU but hey you make more too. Used cars doesn't apply (Dutch and scandinavians are top earners in EU )3. Leftist media, but we're not crazy leftists like sweden
>>215392832How? Is there a system that would give me that much for just doing nothing and because I was born in a corrupted country or what?
>>215392773Yes it is, we have a lot of rich Russian tourists in eastern Finland, northern Finland as well as the capital of course. How is it pure oligarchy? I've seen a lot of crack down on regular people, non state news being shutdown, smearing of opposition? Was this true, alexei or someone.I love you guys as a people, I like the balls of your pres. But yeah I've understood it ain't all too pretty, bald and bankrupt on Youtube is someone I've watched. Believe me I love your country, a part of my family came way back to finland, back during the times when lenin and the boys had their fun.
>>215392910See you on the battlefield>>215392917Yes that's the fucking joke! And Healthcare, school is free on top of that. If you're an immigrant you get 65884 x 2,5 to help get settled with furniture etc
>>215391780 (OP)Well, what about a little domain? I'd like to find something like 2-3 acres, stone house. Southern, closer to the sea. How much it costs approximately? Qanto costa?
>>215391780 (OP)What about the prices? How much do u spend per month to live?What is minimum in $$$/per month to stay alive and fine there?
>>215393081Use google translate to auto translate and just look. The closer to the capital the higher the price. (A lot of free events, services in capital region)https://www.etuovi.com/myytavat-asunnot/omakotitalo>>215393089What did H say, liebensraum I believe
>>215393094I've lived on 200e a month (not rent included), and then I've eaten home cooked meals (food quality is better over here too). Had cigarettes, and even been out drinking. But lower than this and you won't get to enjoy much. Currently I spend 800e a month but I do go out a lot with women etc. Still eat home cooked a lot, but visit restaurants. Take trips to the capital to enjoy life. living costs me in a nice neighborhood with 3 rooms and kitchen 550e monthly. Used to pay in a ok suburban area 300e monthly. I make 2700-3000e a month and I'm just a cook.Bread 1-2e, milk 1,60, coca cola 0,33 ~1.50, brand new tv 50" ~300e, meat 400g ~2.3e
>>215393277It's old maps from "fascist" finland>>215393213Cringe, I'd rather have a drink with you and see what you'd think then
>>215393094bare minimum 450e, since living expenses are not so bad if you cook. living on benefits is about ~1000e
>>215391780 (OP)Can i live in Finland, if i dont speak suomi? And can i live comfortably for a certain time, while learning national language?
>>215391780 (OP)Hey, you have chosen a good time to initiate this thread. When the sun rise, a huge horde of trolls will appear here. How did you find out about the "NOCHNOY"? Coincidence? I guess you are dvacher IRL and are just kidding now
>>215393447Yes, as I've said, you can live on benefits study finnish if you want to. Hell just come over to study and live and see what you think. If not 3 years for a paid life with great education
>>215391780 (OP)I don't want to learn suomi, and for some reason i think, my english won't be sufficient for moving
>>215393590There's russian immigrants here, connect with them. Bring your sister, and live for free and send money home to your parents. Hell you'd like it so much that you'd practice english
>>215393725I mean, i know english, but i don't think suomi boyz will be happy to have another migrant who doesn't speak their own language. Even though i'm a law abiding dude and etc
>>215393778Чел, практика все равно свое берет, и не все идеально знают английский, ты об этом не думал?
>>215393725To get a oleskelulupaa i need to find a job with at least EUR 1,236 per month. How the fuck i get that job lol
>>215393794У меня всё пиздато с английским, но вот финский я учить не очень хочу, и не уверен, что финнам будет норм ещё один имигрант который только на английском разговаривает, на не на их родном.
Suomi boyz aren't racist, unless you're a nigger without respect. I've had russian friends, russian-finnish mixed friends. Suomi boyz like russians, your our crazy cousins. I always talk to the rich russians who visit. And we do not frown upon you guys
>>215393822Cool! Thanks for your support, brother. Maybe i'll move from here to your place, since everything here turned into turbulent PIZDETS.
Slavic women have great manners and behave well. I wouldn't mind dating your sister>>215393778 Sure it takes a toll, but how come brazilians, germans, americans etc come over as exchange students and live with finnish families and still have friends and everything. This isn't possible unless everyone knows English well.>>215393815A job with that pay is basically part time 50% as a janitor. National recruitment agencyhttp://www.te-palvelut.fi/te/en/index.html
>>215393841Cause Russians are hard fucking people, work hard, follows society and are fun to be around>>215393841Das vedanya igor
>>215391780 (OP)> Come live in prosperity, come where social benefits amount to 65884 rubles a month.who is waiting for me here? nobody needs me. I will come and sleep at the station?
>>215391780 (OP)Finally very good and useful thread, thank's a lot,finnish man. God bless you! :33Kak zhe hochetsya tyanochku...
>>215393954Yes, I used to work a lot of IT. And in the capital you're hired right away. Outside of the capital it isn't that hard, you'd have to search harder though. Enjoy a salary at entry level 2000-2400, experienced 2400-3500++ >>215393977Hell come to the station, stay as a citizen>>215394002No prob anon, godspeed to you!
>>215393954I think, good it-specialist still will be earn 300k/nanosecond. in rubles, thats sure.мимо все больше задумываюсь над тактичным съебом из русского поля эксперементов
>>215394116> who has to make Russia not being shit hole after I leave it?Leave that to time my friend>>215394106Sure, I can dig it
>>2153943281. Surreal feeling of speaking other language. You've been speaking your mother tongue your whole life, and when you start using another one, it feels almost like children's game with non-existing words and expressions, but people respond you, and you understand what they saying, and it only makes this feeling more surreal.2. When you think in other language, your intelligence is significantly lower thatn in your native language, that changes your perception by others
>>215394256Those are recruitment agencies, webdev possibly, what do you have in mind? There's manual labor too, factories etchttps://barona.fi/en/tyopaikat/http://www.te-palvelut.fi/te/en/index.html>>215394328You are 100% right, I think it could be our survival instinct. A bit of adrenaline to help focus on them (adrenaline vision), you know in case it's an enemy tribe.
>>215394240Yeah we're the same, I'm not gonna hype up finland with pictures of upper class. Just everyday life
>>2153943812. When you think in other language, your intelligence is significantly lower thatn in your native language, that changes your perception by othersI've heard it's higher, since it's not the language of the "heart", so less emotional speech = more intelligent
>>215394420Man don't be cynical>>215394430Ok, what about all the popular russian friends I have. Hottest artist in finland last year, russian rapper boy
>>215394455From my expericene, i feel like im limited in expressing my thoughts and feelings, even though i have enough vocabulary.
>>215394485Ja mitä perussuomalaisista? :DVoitko antaa mulle linkki hänestä ohimennen? Haluaisin kuunnella
>>215394525Yeah I get you now, this is true as someone who speaks 3 languages. But you're internal thinking will be more logical once you learn to be "bilingual" I've read many times>>215394567Perussuomalaiset wants to kick out sand niggers who are illegaly in our country since police won't forcefully kick them out. As well as the ones who are causing trouble. Same goes for new immigrants from the middle east. But they're not a majority, just a minority. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2HEcGdyc4Ahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PVOqfHsX7s
Из питера можно без визы на поезде попасть. В питере около 5 млн анонов. Медианный доход в питере ниже пособия в финке. Следуя некоторой логике, если бы всё было так просто, как пишет оп, там бы не осталось никого уже.
>>215394328Because how you perceive yourself has a ton to do with how people percieve you. You may not realize it, but you probably feel like a different person around your parents than you do around your friends. This ties into speaking a different language except that speaking a different language is a noticable outward change and it is actually visible to others, so they will treat you in a different context as well as you treating yourself in a different context. All of a sudden, you’re using a different set of sounds to communicate. But it’s actually way more than that. The people you know best may not be able to comprehend this new set of sounds. This divides you from them in a verbal context when speaking in this new set of sounds. This new set of sounds also has words for concepts that your native tongue only has complex explanations for—meaning this concept can easily be understood by this new culture as a familiar one, but not by people of your own culture.If you enter a different country, a different sphere, you can start all over. You can become a different person, because different cultures allow you to be different things.
>>215394656>попастьWhat's stopping them? Family, friends, life. Some people have nothing to lose and just want to live good. People are coming in and settling their lives here. You do you
>>215394656Btw, if we'd follow your logic, china, africa and india should be empty. Less extreme examples could be, why the fuck would people then live in czech republic or poland since their surrounded with countries that pay 2x more salary
>>215394655i do know what they want, just troll you lolSound like kizaru or something near. What the finnish scene is on nowadays btw?
>>215394837eto samofix ochepyatki, chel>>215394844I'm too lazy to get to them and it feels ok.Thus i don't have to run outta russian federation with the purpose of doing lrly nothing.
>>215391780 (OP)If it was UK on Finland's place I would've accepted your offer. I even think I would've moved there long before 2020. But unfortunately the best countries are a bit far from Russia.
>>215391780 (OP)I haveread all and I almost agree to ride. Still, I have some questions. Can I melt brass in my yard using gas or charcoal? Are brass or bronze on sale for a private persone? Will police punish me for my specific job? I create sculptures then sale. This is my way of life. English is not my favourite language as you see, but I hope you understand what I've meant.
>>215394907>purpose Some people might have, as a young person you shouldn't have to live in conditions shown by these. As a young person you should have money, savings, and most importanly fun Of course, St. Petersburg, Moscow, Sochi, Vladivostok seem beautiful and I'd have to get to know the salary in these places to get an understanding.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Qwz8Q4BBrkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RQlQDp1uiUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2vaswVqqoo&t=651s>>215395019If I'd move to another country I'd pick norway cause I love the scandinavian capitalistic socialism. Where you do not need to slave if you're sick, burnt out etc makes no sense that we HAVE to work if our health declines. In scandinavia you're treated like an asset, because you are the value of your nation.>>215395016Low tier jobs1500e "TES" contracts (Janitors, fast food workers, factory workers)Service tier1500-2000e (shops, postmen, simple logistics not trucking)Worker tier (OP's tier)2000-2500 (Low tier hospital staff, cooks, laborers, bar staff, metal, forest industries, accountants)Educated tier2500-3500 (Economists, IT, Media, Supervisors etc) Rich tier3000>
>>215393822You know I had such an impression from my numerous contacts with finns that you're a kind of small nation with inferioty complex. I don't want to insult you I'm neutral but you remind me Chechens lol or maybe Balts in some way. I'd prefer to move to a country with a nation that has good self-esteem and who doesn't make such ridiculous memes like the ones you posted here as well as tonns of comments on Youtube where finns release their hatred and blame Russia for everything especially under hockey videos lol. You look pathetic as hell. I can't imagine Dutch, for instance, to make such shit. They just don't care. They've got great self-esteem. Anyway Finland is better than this putin's shit in almost every aspect haha.
>>215395082Yes you are free to! Their for sale, and people do steal it from scarp yards, construction equipment and so on. You are free to do whatever in the field your in. If you make a company pay taxes, otherwise do your hustle, and your free to earn it's either 5k or 7k a year with no taxes from your hobbies. But no one is gonna be looking.
>>215395269Worse than a janitor just saying.>>215395242Inferiority complex maybe, we take hockey seriously as a nation when it's game season the public goes wild. I wouldn't say Russia is even a conversation really, I mean how are you guys a problem? Some people romanticize the wars with the Soviets, but these are few. I've seen russians talk shit irl about finns but I doubt it's a very common belief. Then again how much of this is the "Twitter effect" where minorities scream loud as hell.>>215395322Well you're still young a bit to go til you're middle aged. But it's aimed at young people more since they might be thinking bout their future
>>215395197>salariesWell according to this if I live in Moscow then there is no reason for me to go for Finland's residency. We've got a bit lower but pretty same wages (if you're a valuable specialist). The other side is the pace of life here, healthcare and quality of goods. I'm completely sure that these things are incomparable cos Russia's gonna suck in this case. But if we talk about the pace I heard a lot Russians feel in Finland-type of countries like in a village after a big city. I can say myself that I felt fucking bored after being outside of London for 2 weeks so this also works for me.
>>215395375My friend's bud lives in finland. It's shithole of half mordovian spics. The only place i immigrate to is eather germany or washington. Both of them have a lot of my relatives.
>>215395473Depends on area. Berlin is pretty much Moscow but has much more gypsies and arab refugees. Prrtty disgusting honestly that's why i haven't moved here. finland is the least probable place i ever travel to. It's literally Korelia on low gpu.
>>215395375Good luck with the aiming in 2ch lolHowever, i'm about to sleep right now. Hyvää yötä ystäväni.
>>215395375>But it's aimed at young people more since they might be thinking bout their futureWow, Finland is definitely not the best choice for Russian youngsters. It lacks many development opportunities that big economies have such as USA, UK, Germany etc. Finland is great for >65-70 who want to chill out after their life.
>>215391780 (OP)Nay, m8, i want to go to Australia. Bigger territories, bigger sealine, no more cold seasons and much bigger suntime. Quite good place for all experiments with solar power generation and much more.
>>215395620Dvachuyu. And snakes with roaches under your blanket. You won't be bored anytime unlike your heaven for retired.
>>215391780 (OP)I thought Finns hate us for some reason. Anyway it's almost pointless to migrate anywhere as you will be a second-class citizen.
Какой странный тред на би в целом, а? Зашёл анон, никого нахуй не послал, пару подъёбов, ссылки, инфа. Хм, давно не видел такого.
>>215391780 (OP)I've heard finnish girls perceive russians like some sort of niggers. Is that true? Also what chances that russian will face national hatred in Finland?
>>215395980How they percept those guys who are only technically from Russia. Like Chechens, Dagestani people, tatars?
>>215391780 (OP)Молодец, уроки ингриша в жмеринской средней школе имени говна в шароварах не прошли даром.